# Juggling (siteswap)

**URL:** https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337
**Category:** Catalog
**Created:** [7 May 2021 14:33 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337 "2021-05-07T14:33:13Z")
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### Author: ![yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/user_avatar/forum.algorithmicpattern.org/yaxu/32/3_2.png) [@yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/yaxu)
#### Post date: [7 May 2021 14:33 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/1 "2021-05-07T14:33:13Z")

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Here’s a mind expanding video explaining siteswap. Interesting to see someone explain the mathematics of juggling movements, while someone else is doing it, when what they’re doing looks _ **totally impossible.** _

https://player.vimeo.com/video/62145217?h=9c84a8b857&app_id=122963

That whole Gandini Juggling vimeo account is a goldmine, they’ve put a DVD’s worth of material up for free. I really have no hope of learning any of it though 😕

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### Author: ![guiot](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/4bbf92/32.png) [@guiot](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/guiot)
#### Post date: [10 May 2021 16:18 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/2 "2021-05-10T16:18:34Z")

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thanks 💕 i’m very much not a video person so it’s very hard to watch a 50min one for me, but I will send this to my mom that I somehow really got into juggling math (with this book that I lovingly recommend: [The Mathematics of Juggling | Burkard Polster | Springer](https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9780387955131))

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### Author: ![sicchio](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/user_avatar/forum.algorithmicpattern.org/sicchio/32/52_2.png) [@sicchio](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/sicchio)
#### Post date: [19 May 2021 02:32 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/3 "2021-05-19T02:32:19Z")

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This is awesome

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### Author: ![yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/user_avatar/forum.algorithmicpattern.org/yaxu/32/3_2.png) [@yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/yaxu)
#### Post date: [19 September 2021 19:32 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/4 "2021-09-19T19:32:42Z")

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I stumbled on a video demonstrating ‘negative siteswaps’, where balls are thrown back in time. It’s done with ‘antiballs’, which cancels out when it meets a normal ball…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_5Q4UhyajC4/maxresdefault.jpg "Negative Siteswaps 1") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Q4UhyajC4)

" When a ball changes from going backwards to going forwards in time, it looks like a ball and an antiball appear out of nowhere and are thrown as a [multiplex](https://juggle.fandom.com/wiki/Multiplex). Both of these are actually the same ball; one is the ball going forwards in time, and the other is the ball going backwards in time. The antiball comes from the future, turns into a ball, and goes back into the future, so it doesn’t exist before that time as a ball or as an antiball. When a ball changes from going forwards to going backwards in time, it looks like a ball and an antiball come together in a [squeeze](https://juggle.fandom.com/wiki/Squeeze) catch and disappear. The ball comes from the past, turns into an antiball, and goes back into the past, so it doesn’t exist after that time as a ball or as an antiball."

> **[Impossible Siteswap Animator](https://juggle.fandom.com/wiki/Impossible_Siteswap_Animator)**
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> The Impossible Siteswap Animator is a juggling simulator that was made by Alex Lubker, using the game creation tool Stencyl. It was originally made in 2013, and an improved version was completed in 2015. This program can animate patterns written in...

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### Author: ![yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/user_avatar/forum.algorithmicpattern.org/yaxu/32/3_2.png) [@yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/yaxu)
#### Post date: [5 January 2022 18:30 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/5 "2022-01-05T18:30:01Z")

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As well as great performances there’s a lovely discussion in here about differences / correspondences between jugging and music improv:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/M_olFc1HTf8/maxresdefault.jpg "Jay Gilligan - play talk play") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_olFc1HTf8)

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### Author: ![yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/user_avatar/forum.algorithmicpattern.org/yaxu/32/3_2.png) [@yaxu](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/u/yaxu)
#### Post date: [26 September 2022 15:41 UTC](https://forum.algorithmicpattern.org/t/juggling-siteswap/337/6 "2022-09-26T15:41:05Z")

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A nice summary of siteswap from a mathematician: [Juggling Talk Summary](http://www.solipsys.co.uk/new/JugglingTalkSummary.html?JugglingTalk)
